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Looking forward to watching it!

Looking forward to this! 2021-2023 I've read are less fizzy like the older ones and upto 2005.

I think both have the same mids but the perceived clarity goes to the V30 because the lows are very tight.

Alnico c is dark beast , cleaner and dirtier🎉🎉remember you only need 3😊 ,its like a happy redback

This is so funny, I have never owned any of the most famous Celestion speaekers, but I own a Lynchback and Century Vintage, both discontinued now. So I was just thinking about buying my first V30 for one of my 1x12 cabs, I want to reduce lows to improve perceived clarity, this demonstrates the V30 is gonna do that if I replace the Lynchbak. Not a bad speaker at all, I can easily tame the low end and increase clarity by cutting low freq with a Boss GE-10 and will be in the same territory as the V30 in this demo but I just feel like I want to try the most popular Celestions like the V30 or Greenback or Creamback, never owned one of those.

This is going to be sick

Which speaker combination is best used for a 2×12 home

You guys at Zilla are upping the game seriously! Looking forward to it even if I'm not a V30 guy. This is gonna get nerdy 😎

I have a Laney GH30R-112 combo. It came stock with a Cele V-Type and there was a high-mid graininess to the tone, kind of rough sounding. I thought it might be the amp but decided to try the speaker before selling the amp. So I bought a G12H-75 and installed it. The high graininess disappeared and the amp now sounds smooth and well balanced. And the speaker isn't even broken in yet. I'm really happy with my choice. The V-Type is a good speaker, but the G12H-75 is just on another level.

Looking forward to this! 😊

Ohhh this is going to be good.

Wen Chug?

I can't frickin' wait!

Great comparison! I'm particularly liking your new videos a lot. I tried an H Creamback and a Vintage 30 in my Orange CR60 about a year ago (after listening to a lot of your old videos, especially to try to decide on the Creamback), and I've noticed your newer videos sound a bit more accurate to how they sounded to me in-person. I still think the best way to compare the speakers is to look at their differences, since there are so many factors with different cabs that they won't necessarily sound exactly the same in every use case, but if someone needs more brightness or darkness, then getting the respective brighter or darker speaker is more likely to accomplish that. I ended up keeping the H Creamback in my amp. I thought the Orange's stock Voice of the World speaker and the Vintage 30 both sounded pretty similar, with a very thick and a bit darker sound, while the H Creamback sounded like it had a bit more brightness, was a bit more focused, and had a bit of extra sizzle. For the Vintage 30 and Voice of the World, I felt adjusting the mid control didn't really do much, while with the H Creamback, it gave me a thinner, more scooped sound with the mids down and sounded pretty close to the other two speakers with the mids up. I also tried hooking up the speakers outside of the amp (since I didn't have another cab), and I liked the mix of the H Creamback and Vintage 30 about as much as the H Creamback by itself, with the Vintage 30 sound by itself being my least favorite. I felt the more focused H Creamback complimented the more spread out Vintage 30 when played together. I also thought the speakers played outside of the cab actually wasn't a terrible sound - I preferred them in the cab, but they were mostly just a bit brighter outside of the cab and I could get pretty close to the sound in the cab just by turning the bass up.

I have a really serious question, my Blue if I play clean with a fat neck humbucker, it seems to easily buzz from the cone, like it farts. Do you think it's blown? It's like the speaker has a brown note. Not even very loud, just a dozen watts.

"A" is the H, "B" is the M. - Great tests... now do blind test of all of them! Love that NEO with DIRT! HATE that ALNICO with DIRT! hahaha who knew!

I really like the H creamback!!😊

Awesome music and awesome tones

I'm excited to say I'm joining the Zilla cab family. I ordered a custom vertical super fat boy 2x12. I'm extremely excited to hear the heritage 55hz greenbacks!

I’m so confused. I used to have a 4x12 with g12t-75s and it didn’t have that aggressive buzz at all, it had a really clean bite, I loved it. Bit worried I can’t recreate it because all the demos I can find online are really buzzy and I’m just going “eh? Am I misremembering?”

Have a G12M-65 16R in a 1x12 combo (DIY oversized with a 3/4 width opening on the back which is almost a 2x12).

I hope that one day i could have one of your cabinets. Maybe a 2x12. Tasty "Creamy" sounds in this Shootout.

M sounds kinda "ready to record" H sounds more "metal" and have that vintage sizzle - I like it the most Neo sounds like "Wow!" cause it's raw and aggressive Alnico sounds "creamy" and I think it's good for solo

Just personal preferences of course, but the Neo sounds fine with clean tones, but just looses something with mid gain and up to my ears.

Let's keep in mind that Mesa almost always puts the V30 in closed back designs and the C-90 in open/partially open back designs... .when you consider that the C-90's tone makes perfect sense so does the V30's. I'll take the C-90 all day it works great in my Mesa 3/4 back cab no matter what i run through it be it a tube amp, solid state amp, modeling amp or a pedal based rig.

Great to hear you are doing these again. Would love to hear V30 with a CL80

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my list is m h alnico nad last neodymium. the last is not bad but too ear piercing highs, alnico the opposite very middy. it's a pity beacuse it's not simple to have e neo speaker that sounds good with the benfit of small weight. have you compared to the neo v type?

WOW! V&H all the way...through my headphones it's very contrasting,

The lesson is know matter how much good gear you buy,if you suck on guitar,you will still suck😂

Got a Creamback H here in my Marshall DSL 20CR and its bloody fantastic

I'm not sure combining M and H Creambacks is giving you more frequencies than either would separately. Too vintage for my tastes. Eminence Swamp Thang and an M65 Creamback gives you a nice full spectrum of frequencies.

Assuummiinngg I trust you, they're all ...

That Neo would blend with the alnico quite well! Neos tone is also surprisingly nice to my ears.

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I'll stay with Vin30s. They have more chime and clarity. The Lynch is too scooped and overpowering.

First speaker you play 1 chord progression, then you switch to the next speaker and play a different chord progression. FAIL

It seems like the M65 Creamback supplanted the Lynchback. Can we get a head to head in order to determine whether it’s worth paying a premium for a used speaker?

Both they compliment each other so well

The M & H sounds incredible together. Currently running them in a custom cab for a DC-30. I've also got an Alnico Cream that I'm going to try swapping in to see the results.

I love your channel so much and your new videos are just awesome! They’re very fun and informative to watch! You guys are raising the awareness of speakers and cabs importance as a crucial step to getting THE tone in your head!

Ever done a 4x12" Celestion blues ? I'd love to hear that with a 1987x head. The M seems to fit my ear. I like Greenbacks but they are always a tad too bright for me, they work well for Blues though. FWIW

As I have always said, M plus H together is the best combination there is. It does sound good at any gain level. Provided you have a good cabinet, that is. As it turns out DCC loves that combination for his amplifiers as well 😊

All excellent sounds, the M already happens to be one of my favorite combinations of 4. The neo is doing something to my earhole that I don't like in isolation, but I bet it's nice in a mix. Thanks for all the work! These videos are incredibly useful.

this video is incredible

G12-65 by far. The cream back has brittle mids and far more ear fatigue

Vintage Modern is a huge angry beast !

Do you have information on the Bass Resonance of the G12H EVH ?

I really want to mix the Ruby with something, maybe a hempback. What would they sound like I wonder?